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cuda Frequent Board Poster
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Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 11:57 pm Post subject: ALFRED WOODHAM REEL |
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Well here it is the new prize of my collection,I was sweating bullets when this hit EBAY,also I could not sleep until it arrived at my home.The picture does not do justice.It is like new.I can't believe it is mine!I do not think I can top this one in my collection.I just joined few days ago as a paid member,I did not receive my member package yet,I am thinking that is why I am not able to upload a pic.Will add when able.Well here is link to Photo.http://picasaweb.google.com/cuda34071n/ALFREDWOODHAM#
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Brian F. Ultra Board Poster

Joined: 14 Sep 2003 Posts: 1922 Location: Honolulu, Hawaii (it was 78 lbs)
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Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 1:47 am Post subject: |
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Sounds like a nice reel and we all know the very same feeling when adding something to our collection! Congratulations!
One note of clarification about your question on uploading photos: When you join ORCA as a paid member, there is no direct connection to membership on this Reel Talk forum. You sign up for both separately and there is no fee for using Reel Talk.
To upload photos, you need to use an internet photo hosting service and then link to them in your postings. There are lots of free ones available such as Photobucket, Picturetrail, or even some internet service providers such as AOL. _________________ Aloha
Brian F.
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Got a spare Pflueger Faultless or reel stamped "Pflueger", "Tuna" or "Tarpon"?
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Steve Super Board Poster

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Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 2:31 am Post subject: |
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Congrats!
| Quote: | | I can't believe it is mine! |
That's exactly how I felt when I bought my first ball-handle at a big outdoor antique show. I ran across the field to show my wife, waving it in the air and bellowing about the "museum piece" I'd just found. (That was over 30 years ago, and the reel is still one of my favorites.) |
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Teal Super Board Poster
Joined: 20 Feb 2005 Posts: 1205 Location: Cincinnati, OH
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Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 2:49 am Post subject: |
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I watched this reel, it is a pretty awesome piece. Congrats!
I ran across an 1860 advertisement for Woodham the other day and thought of this reel...
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cuda Frequent Board Poster
Joined: 17 Jul 2010 Posts: 77
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Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 2:50 am Post subject: And for under $400.00 |
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| I thought this to be a bargain.This is only two reels that I know of.Although it is made by same watch maker of the early unstamped reels.They just stamped retailers name on after order.From what I have been reading.Made in the 1850's |
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Steve Super Board Poster

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Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 5:12 am Post subject: |
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Woodham was a clerk in a hardware store at 134 Pearl St. at least as early as 1844. Within the next few years, he appears to have taken over the business. By 1854, he moved to 160 Fulton St. and was importing guns, "etc." and the "etc." probably included tackle, which was added to his directory listing by 1856. Around 1860, he moved to 424 Broadway, where his store was named Sportsmen's Depot. By 1868, he moved to Canal St. The business seems to have been going downhill, and by 1870, Woodham was on Broome St., selling (or making) "patent hoof cushion for horses," which usually was a rubber, felt, leather or other soft-material pad fastened between the hoof and shoe. By the mid-1870s, he was a "broker" on Cedar St. Sic transit gloria Woodham.  |
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m3040c Super Board Poster

Joined: 30 Apr 2006 Posts: 1038 Location: Long Island, New York
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Jason Advanced Board Poster

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Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 12:39 pm Post subject: |
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| An interesting characteristic of that reel is that the headplate is made of two thin disks soldered together. |
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m3040c Super Board Poster

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Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 8:24 am Post subject: |
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I wonder if that twin disc construction has any advantage of simply going to a heavier gauge material.  _________________ mike cass,,, if you can't collect it, it must be food |
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Jason Advanced Board Poster

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Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 10:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Cost I'm sure. |
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m3040c Super Board Poster

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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 1:58 am Post subject: |
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I do not know how cost would be a factor. The cost of buying double the material in a half gauge would be higher than than buying a single gauge material and then there is the extra work of creating the desired gauge by bonding it, however the maker is doing it.
Anyways, it is a interesting way to build, what ever the reason. _________________ mike cass,,, if you can't collect it, it must be food |
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Steve Super Board Poster

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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 3:05 am Post subject: |
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The two pieces probably are a disc and a ring, producing a recess for the spool flange. This method was probably easier to use, and less wasteful. than machining out a recess in a thicker disc. Even George Snyder made his reels this way.
Here's a two-piece tailplate, with arrows showing the seam between the components. From the inside, the flange recess can be seen. If the maker finishes the reel carefully, the seam can be very hard to see.
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m3040c Super Board Poster

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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 5:01 am Post subject: |
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I totally agree with that style of building on a tail plate but do not know why it would be done on a head plate between the gear housing and the spool. It looks like a single layer would be all that is necessary there. Having the reel in hand would probably answer all the questions for me. It may simply be how they did it then. _________________ mike cass,,, if you can't collect it, it must be food |
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Steve Super Board Poster

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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 3:31 pm Post subject: |
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Headplate of the same reel, with a yellowish disc attached to a darker ring, which forms a flange recess. In this case, when the headcap (reel cover) is attached, the headplate seam is covered.
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m3040c Super Board Poster

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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 8:56 pm Post subject: |
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Very interesting Steve, thanks for the pictures. _________________ mike cass,,, if you can't collect it, it must be food |
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fishbugman Super Board Poster

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Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Steve wrote: | Woodham was a clerk in a hardware store at 134 Pearl St. at least as early as 1844. Within the next few years, he appears to have taken over the business. By 1854, he moved to 160 Fulton St. and was importing guns, "etc." and the "etc." probably included tackle, which was added to his directory listing by 1856. Around 1860, he moved to 424 Broadway, where his store was named Sportsmen's Depot. By 1868, he moved to Canal St. The business seems to have been going downhill, and by 1870, Woodham was on Broome St., selling (or making) "patent hoof cushion for horses," which usually was a rubber, felt, leather or other soft-material pad fastened between the hoof and shoe. By the mid-1870s, he was a "broker" on Cedar St. Sic transit gloria Woodham.  |
No Steve, he was a watch maker according to 'Cuda  _________________ Richard Thomann
San Diego, CALIF
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